Cardiff - English or Welsh?
Cardiff City couldn't accomodate Albion this week for a Championship fixture due to their involvement in the Welsh Cup.
The initial game was, of course, called off as both clubs were involved in Saturday's FA Cup fifth round.
But it got me thinking - the FA Cup, the Welsh Cup? How many cups in different countries are Cardiff allowed to enter?
While we're at it, should they be allowed to enter the Premier League if they win promotion?
Their supporters continually mock supporters of English clubs. So let's test their patriotism - if Cardiff win promotion then send them into the League of Wales, rather than the English Premier League.
Then we'll soon see how anti-English they really are...
Draconian? Perhaps, but I reckon they won't wish to miss out on all those several million Bank of England notes circulating in the Premier League.
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Chris Lepkowski - Mail man Chris Lepkowski’s view of what’s going on at West Bromwich Albion FC.
Boyo, what are you trying to say? You lot ruined our national gems Koumas and Hartson and the Welsh Cup is far more important that the English Cup. Home rule for Wales, Savage for PM
you having a laff pal
I agree, get rid of them.
Listen mate, most cardiff fans dont sing that anti english nonsense, its just a minority, just as most english fans dont wave around plastic blow up sheep like a few west brom fans have done in the past.
And, its not the english league, its the football league, by the way.
Chris Lepkowski thats a fine English nmae mate,how many countries are you allowed to write rubbish in? Cardiff City were invited into the league by the English FA many years ago, on what grounds do you believe they shoulkd be expelled?
Mr Lepkowski
Don't tarnish us all with the same brush, we're not all anti-English. Having a good sense of humour like I do, I am able to put up with plenty of jibes about me being Welsh (I have lived in England for about 7 years), some of which are nothing to do with the fact that I am a Cardiff fan.
Last night's fixture for Cardiff City was in the FAW Premier Cup and not the Welsh Cup, which we are not allowed to enter. As we are under FAW ruling (something which I am against by the way), at present we are contractually obliged to enter the FAW Premier Cup regardless of whether or not we want to.
Should we be allowed to enter the premier league if we win promotion, yes, we have been competing in the english football league since 1920.
One question: Should you be allowed to write a West Bromwich Albion blog for a Birmingham newspaper?
We entered the league system in 1920, why would anyone listen to a tinpot journalist like you?
And it's the football league.
Wow, I bet all the top Fleet St. sports writers are trembling at the thought of you taking their job, after this well thought out , imaginative and reasoned piece of skilled journalism. I thought bear baiting and nationalism of this ilke were below such intrepid reporters like yourself, then again its pretty much to be expected from you eh ?
If I was you I would try for a job with the sun that is so inaccurate they will be glad to have you work for them.You do work by the way why not try for DLA with that chip on your shoulder.
You was happy enough when you messed up building wembley to use cardiff.All that midland smog got to you has it.
hark at all the welshman jealous that you get paid for your view christof
Even I know fleet street doesnt exist any more.
Get with it Welsh boy. They are all at canary wharf. Try crossing the bridge ocasionaly.
"bob the baggie said:
hark at all the welshman jealous that you get paid for your view christof
Even I know fleet street doesnt exist any more.
Get with it Welsh boy. They are all at canary wharf. Try crossing the bridge ocasionaly."
I think you are missing the point completely, but then I dont expect you are interested in facts just your own point of view, bit like the **** writing the article in question eh?
It’s not the Welsh cup it’s a Mickie Mouse
Television cup which has been running for about 10 years.Theres cash prizes for progressing though each round. We have never played our first team squad so I don't know why we couldn’t play WBA
Why are we in the English league well at a guess?
I would say we joined when Great Britain was more
United than what it is now.
Welshmen were standing along side Englishmen dying in at Somme. And yes they were doing the same at football grounds -no segregation.
Times have changed you talk about our chants
Which I never been part of THAT BUT I'm old enough to remember English fans shouting ABERFAN
i dont see the problem. You slag off english, we slag off welsh. get over yourself
If you cant handle it (youve choked earlier than normal this year) then go back to rugby and leave football to the English
David
it dont matter if its a TV cup or welsh cup but you should have played us. we are both in the q/f off cup and we will both be harmed by this game being put back to later in season. you may need play offs, we may need promotion/play offs.
this week would have been ideal week for game
Some of you need to read the piece in the spirit it was written in and get a sense of humour ffs
Good on ya Chris.
It wasn't the Welsh Cup, the Welsh clubs in the English league are not allowed to enter that competition anymore.
What Cardiff played in on Tuesday was the FAW Premier Cup, set-up initially by the FAW and BBC Wales to give Welsh Premier and non-league clubs a chance to play the professional clubs as they can't do so in the Welsh Cup.
Get your facts right! (OJ - Journalism student and Swansea City supporter)
exactly ray
if you want to see what chris writes normally go to the website or read his paper. this is a blog. its meant to be a diferent look on whats going on.
personaly i hope you lot go up rather than stoke or wolves but you have to admit the anti english stuff at matches goes on.
ive seen it myself. Wolves fans i know saw it on saturday (well done for that win by the way)
so how do you anti english lot explain this from our very own manager (who i reckon knows a bit more about football than you lot)
from birminghammail.net
TONY Mowbray has brushed aside Albion's FA Cup quarter-final draw by insisting that all energies must be switched back to this Saturday's Championship fixture against Hull City.
Despite seeing his side handed a favourable sixth-round draw against Bristol Rovers, Mowbray is more concerned with the race for the Premiership.
The Baggies wanted to play their postponed game against Cardiff City this week, called off due to both clubs being involved in the fifth round, but the Bluebirds are obliged to fulfil a Welsh Cup fixture. That game will be now be played on April 1.
The timing could not be worse for Mowbray's men, who must also reschedule their Black Country derby trip to Wolves due to their FA Cup quarter final clash and will have their game at Blackpool called-off should they reach the last four.
The Baggies have lost ground at the top of the Championship since their draw with Sheffield United last Tuesday.
Stoke and Watford are now equal top, four points ahead of Albion, with third-placed Bristol City three points ahead following their draw with Crystal Palace last night.
So are you lowlife calling mowbray a liar then?
""Draconian? Perhaps, but I reckon they won't wish to miss out on all those several million Bank of England notes circulating in the Premier League.""
Ironic don't you think Mr Lepkowski
Your from a Polish background earning GBP
Give it up, is it!
mowbray said
"In a way there is a frustration we're not playing in midweek but Cardiff had a Welsh Cup game so we couldn't fit that game in.
"then go back to rugby and leave football to the English "
Um, hate to tell you this Bob old bean but rugger's an English sport. It's named after a school in the Midlands...
And Bridgend's not exactly in the Valleys either but don't worry about it.
"The Baggies wanted to play their postponed game against Cardiff City this week, called off due to both clubs being involved in the fifth round, but the Bluebirds are obliged to fulfil a Welsh Cup fixture."
Bob, The answer is there, we were "obliged to fulfil the fixture" probably due to the fact it was live on TV, its a crap competition and we only field reserves and Acadamy players, but I am assuming we were bound by a contract or similar agreement. And we are not all anti English, some of us live life to enjoy it, not just hate for the sake of it.
egbert
So why does your nation devote its life to rugby and not football.
what you said about Chris L was below the belt. slag his view off if you life , but haveing a go at his family. your a low life for that so dont come on here moralizing
Cardiff City, Swansea City, Wrexham, Newport county, Merthyr tydfil and colwyn bay are not allowed to compete in the Welsh cup. They have not been allowed to compete in the Welsh cup since 1995.
The cup they do compete in (the FAW premier cup) is a nonsence cup that offers no european place or has any credibility whatsoever....They toss a coin to see which ground the final will be played - THATS how stupid the competition is!!!!
Also, Go check the past winners of the Welsh cup Proper....Past winners of the trophy include Chester, Bristol City, Tranmere Rovers, Crew Alexandra, South Liverpool, Shrewsbury Town, Hereford united and Hendesford Town, while Kidderminster harriers, stourbridge F.C and Northwich Victoria have also appeared in a Welsh cup final In the past. (Not to mention countless other english teams that never made it to the final.....
Are any of those Welsh clubs?? Why were they allowed to compete in the Welsh and English FA cups before they, along with the Football league clubs were all kicked out??? ;-)
Ruined Hartson? McDonalds and Witherspoons ruined Hartson. He took 20 grand a week from WBA for well over a year. Not bad for a hamburger taster.
so what is the point. You played a Welsh game and as a result were unable to play a Championship game?
so whats the problem?
We wanted a game, you had a Welsh game to fulfill. Which is what both mowbray and CL have said.
Is that or is that not the case?
wheres the lie in that?
You lot have a vile reputation in football. Sort that out before you start takeing it out on us.
Thretening the family of someone who writes soemthing you dont agree with? you sad sad people. on a par with scousers, the lot of you
Wibble!
the bottom line is this Welsh people.
If you dont like the English then sod off out of our Football League
good comment jack
We seem to be forgeting that this is a tolerant society in england. So far on this list off messages weve had racism against english and welsh.
Bob,
The point is the Welsh FAW game was scheduled for that date, the game with you was re scheduled to another available date for BOTH clubs, not just WBA. Hey, the game will happen and I for one cant wait, are you coming to the game ?
At last an admision that you have a welsh game on that date! aftr slaging off cl and us you have finaly admitted defeat.
yes i am going. i cant wait for the spittle that normaly comes over onto us.
like i say, you have a reputtation for a reason
Ve vant ze money, Lebowski.
****. Wrong movie!
"then go back to rugby and leave football to the English"
Your not very good at both are you.
But I like to help try school or Google for facts before you post anymore.
ps making fun of children's deaths is typical of you sick lot maybe they should do a article on those comments.
"bob the baggie said:
At last an admision that you have a welsh game on that date! aftr slaging off cl and us you have finaly admitted defeat.
yes i am going. i cant wait for the spittle that normaly comes over onto us.
like i say, you have a reputtation for a reason"
Bob,
The only thing I need to admit is I have not got a clue what you are talking about, I admit you have lost me. Are you on a wind up or just drunk?
i refer you back to some one insulting a writers mrs because he didnt like what he wrote.
double standards?
you come on here giving it the moral high ground, slaging off people and then expect nothing back. ive seen how you lot behave at football matches when attacking women and kids - so dont go calling us sick
Does feb 14 about 4 years ago mean nothign to you. when you attacked familys and kids on the birmignham road end? forgoten that have you?
Look at The Big Lepkowski giving it some... were you bullied at school or something??
anyway, poor journalism trying to make a story out of nothing, perhaps because you've failed to beat us might have something to do with it.
p.s Mrs Lepkowski says hi!
she looks good in wool!
soulsurfer
Im not drunk. Your the one who started laying out the insults. All because someone reported FACT (you cant play us beause you have a Welsh game)
As Jack said, sod off back over the bridge and form your own league with swansea and merthyr. Leave us to play our own games. Cardiff wont be missed if they drop out of the league.
At least we've played at the highest level and won Cups.
ooh look at simon CF24.
another one so weak at argueing that he resorts to cheap jibes
Bob,
Showing your ignorance about footy now mate.
We have triangular flags, why ?
Because youve won the cup presumabely?
Im on about winning the cup in this life time.
Bob,
It might not have been in my life time as you say, but its with great pride we can say we were the last winners of the English cup, and the FA had to re name the cup the FA Cup, because we took the cup out of England !!!!!
Have you won the cup n your life time, I thought you were about 10.
This aint wales pal.
Weve won a lot more than the cup in my lifetime. a league cup, 2 fa cups, and several qualifications for the eufa
fact is youre low life. Clubs hate you, wolves banned you from their ground.
Hope you enjoy frankly services. Your club is deemed that backward that you have to collect your match tickets from the police at an ENGLISH service station.
If you hate us so much then why not split and form your own league?
Like i said, theres 89 english clubs in the FL. WE wont miss you. We may miss swansea and wrexham though but not you.
It comes to something when people hate cardiff more than wolves and stoke in our division
"It comes to something when people hate cardiff more than wolves and stoke in our division"
Thats because we are special and you are just another club in Birmingham mate. We have lots of contact with fans from Wolves and the Stokies, great blokes all of them, they dont rate you though!!!
Bob - Are you sure you've ever been to a local derby? I've seen Wolves City centre shut down when they play you lot, no pubs open and helicopters everywhere. I've seen the those same games have scraps inside and out.
My mate also owns two pubs in the centre of Wolverhampton, and they were both closed all day, so I can only assume you are one of those fans that listens on the radio.
"you come on here giving it the moral high ground, slaging off people and then expect nothing back. ive seen how you lot behave at football matches when attacking women and kids - so dont go calling us sick
Does feb 14 about 4 years ago mean nothign to you. when you attacked familys and kids on the birmignham road end? forgoten that have you?"
I think you are Chris Lepkowski no one else would care as much or be on here as long, we came on here due to whats been written here.
I have never seen women and kids attacked at a game so cant help you there why was you so close to the so called action then?
Or do you mean when your lot,wolves,and brum ripped out the seats to throw at women and kids in the grandstand its on you tube along with plenty more.Along with the WMP thugs so yes I do have the high ground then again I have always looked down on your type anyway.
Bye your boring me now.
FAO Bob The Baggie, it was a light hearted comment in response to all this drivel posted by you and your fellow fans..
This is my last comment on here, as i've no time for childish arguments with the likes of you, as for the whole "Wales / England" story this journalist has started, as i said previously a story from nothing.... must be real exciting news in the birmingham area to have to come up with this c**p.
Before I go one last thing we are going no where no matter how much you hate it we are here to stay.No one cares what you think.
Suck on that one.
Ban England from playing overseas I say "save the Patio"
And start paying us for our water parasites.
I think you will find that no welsh club can join the premier league, UEFA state that no team from another country can play in a foreign league. As the premier league is a separate league from the football league then no welsh club can join it unless they become part of the English fa.
What a ***** headed little murk you are.
You really get paid to write ill-informed uneducated drivel like this? You lucky bar steward! Any other jobs there?
Or are you just sulking as City took you of the the Carling Cup and outplayed you at your place in the league as well?
You give us journos a bad name writing tripe like that !
Surely your sub-editor has informed someone in authority about this article !
In the times that we live in today, you should look at the big picture and remember we are all British !
Look forward to your forthcoming visit on April 1, I'm sure you will realise we are no fools to be messed with !
And where is your english pound made ? - none other than at Llantrisant, South Wales.
Quality journalism, fair play. And they try to make out that the english are not 'bothered' by the little ole Welsh eh!! Don't make me laugh, you're all obssessed! A pen pusher of Polish extract should also know better. Or are you just as depressed by West Brom 'city' centre as I was when I had the misfortune of visiting? No wonder Frank Skinner got out.
We were a part of the very early Football League and always will be, but thanks for your interest.
Come on england, grow some backbone for gawd's sake? You want to look a little closer to home for threats to our national game. Michel Platini was right when he said 'the english are comical. First they have a non english manager, non english club owners and then they admit the majority of their support is non english' (39th game plan)
ps. We did however enjoy Croatia at Wembley and prats like this 'journalist' simply add to the occasion.
Why is this report allowed to be written when it is known for a fact that it would raise tempers on both sides, especially when the teams still have to meet.
The piece has been written without any thought given to any sort of investigation into the facts. I am aware that you and your team are pressing for automatic promotion and are therefore getting nervous, but there is no need for sloppy journalism.
You are talking about a competition that is basicaly ridiculed amongst the employees of Cardiff City AND it's supporters. However, as an affiliate to the Welsh FA we have no choice but to play the tournament.
It is no good taunting us with threats of pushing us towards the Welsh League, we have heard it all before. You choose to hone in on a small group of fans that will forever taunt the English (and vice versa). You MUST be aware that Cardiff City have put their lot into the English system, so much so that we are one of only a few clubs that have NO eligibility to play in Europe. We gave up that right to stay in the English system. How many English Clubs would do that?
You will be glad to hear that this is the last year of the tournament and a cheer will go up.
Just like WBA, Cardiff City play in ONE League, ONE FA CUP and ONE League Cup. However our participation does not have the possibility of European Football at the end of it.
Now if you want to fight a cause, what about putting some effort into backing a fellow 'English' in gaining the rights of all other English teams to dream about European Football. Or do you want to stay amongst the few hundred that continually promote antagonism between football teams.
You mess with us and it's the end of the English FA, The Scottish FA and The FAW all to be replaced by a British FA. There are many outside the UK who would like to see the end of the home countries' FAs and have us only entering one team in international competition.
Typical response from our Welsh underlings. The Welsh, Scots and Irish have a huge chip on their shoulder about us English. You call us arrogant but we're not arrogant, just superior.... let the Welsh rule Wales, the Scots rule Scotland (and kick out Brown and his cronies from England as they are having it both ways), the Irish rule Ireland and so on. Chris Lepkowski was born in England, he is English. That's fortunate for him because it means he wasn't born in Wales and is Welsh.
Your league for our water.Fair exchange.I mean,how many country,s does he want to drink water from.Without your league we would manage.Without our water?
get your facts right journo
1. it wasnt the welsh cup - it was the faw premier cup
2. we're obliged to play in that competition
3. we played Newport County - who are also in the football league pyramid system. I didnt here them moaning they'd rather have played a league game
4. many many clubs based in england have played in and won the welsh cup - do you think they should join the welsh league and leave the football league
and just for your info
5. Both Berwick upon Tweeds football and Rugby clubs play in the scottish systems - do you want them back in the english system?
6. Monaco is the world second smallest independent country and have been playing in the French system for years - they've won the french league 7 times - and the cup 5 times. They got to the Champions league final 4 years ago - how can that be?
So Bob the Baggie is so proud of everything English that he murders the English language in his messages.If that`s the general standard of education in England , I`m so glad my children were educated in Wales.
And St George , from the name he posts under , is obviously proud of his English heritage.Such a shame then that he chooses a name of a saint that in fact was born in Turkey and is not even remotely English.
During many years living in England , it always amused me that the less educated Englishman was so xenophobic about St George , the Royal Family etc. when neither is in fact remotely English in origin.I think this lack of historical identity really causes them much confusion and angst.
Tut, tut. A journalist of Polish extraction really should know better.
We have been a part of the Football virtually since it began which nullifies the 'english' argument on 2 counts.
But what if we said the league was 'english' only? Just what is english about the game over the bridge exactly?
1. Italian national manager
2. Majority of clubs foreign owned
3. Majority of fans foreign, hence game 39 plan.
4. National stadium Australian built
5. Majority of players are non english
Makes you cry doesn't it! Platini was right when he said the english are 'comical'.
As for Bob the builder's comments about teenage suicides, then I think you've even managed to alienate yourself from your fellow englishmen.
wat a joker guess your ingerlish with that surname ,ever tried being a welshman living in ingerland ????? .take every joke given and hand out loads back.go back to 1966 wen u were a decent team,just wanne bs who qualify 4 nowt at least we know we r rubbish
To Bob The Builder
Nice comment about Bridgend, keyboard warrior. I suppose you think it's funny that so many families have lost loved ones? Sort of sums up the sick personality you must have.
You 2nd Class Muppet
Quality journalism, Mr Lepkowski, you make me laugh, Can I ask why you were aloud to play a person that was up on murder charge for several games that scored several goals that got you to Prem. Not that you lasted that long....... Maybe the teams you were playing then should have complaned as any normal person would have been locked up.
Using that logic English teams should be thrown out the CL & UEFA Cups.
After all don't the English sing anti-German/French/Dutch/(whoever they are playing) songs?
Also European competitions are funded in Euro's not Bank of England pounds
I'm Welsh and I agree that all Welsh Clubs should play in the Welsh Premier League. Why should they play in another country's league anyway? We have one here in Wales that would certainly improve a lot if it had all the Welsh clubs in it.
The most annoying thing is the game was screened on BBC2 Wales and due to Baadiff reserves being unable to see off Newport in 90 minutes (or even after extra time) I missed Master Chef! Thank the gods this is the last year the 'competition' is being played.
Very funny to see the Taffs go crazy after a little prod from Chris Lepkowski, he's just as English as Koumas is Welsh by the way. ;-)
From a Saes in Goggland.
Most ridiculous bit of writing i have seen in a long while, what point are you actually trying to make here ?!
because cardiff city fans sing anti-english songs the club shouldnt play in the highest level of the foootball league?!??? makes no sense mate.
What an absolute idiot this journalist is.
What a spiteful piece of writing seemingly intent on causing aggrovation and friction for anyone associated to Cardiff who reads it.
Football doesn't need such half baked, poorly researched, provocational and bitter comments.
Grow up, grow a spine, some decency and respect.
If there was less of this spite in football, and more decency and respect shown then such things as hooliganism wouldn't be so much of a problem.
Is there any email address available at the Birmingham mail for complaints to be made to?
This article is most probably the worst bit of journalism I’ve ever had the displeasure of reading, what a crock. Is it that small Cardiff City has played WBA off the park in recent outings? (at the Hawthorns I may add) or has the journo gained his qualifications from an American spam e-mail site sending out Degrees?, I would suspect most probably both are true is this case. We’ve been part of the league set up since the 1920’s and will continue to be a part of it, it’s not the English league my friend but the football league. As for missing the game on Tuesday that’s just due to both teams having excellent runs in the world’s oldest cup competition and Cardiff having no option but to play in the FAW cup, the poor attendance at Ninian Park for this game shows how the fans rate it. And finally this clown mocking the very worrying and heart breaking goings on in Bridgend should be well ashamed, ignorance, arrogance personified.
Oh and by the way.
Production of the money for both Wales and England is done at The Royal Mint, based in Cardiff.
Every coin you have in your pocket was born in Wales.
As someone, who, I would assume is highly educated I am suprised at your comments. You come across as a bigot and a racist. Your comments are unjust and unwelcomed.
What point are you trying tp prove by writing such rubbish. This smacks of sensationalism and a journalist trying to provoke trouble.
Such an inadequate piece of journalism. Only written to provoke Cardiff fans.
Very very sad.
What a rubhish article from a polish chap stirring up anti welsh hatred. A poor piece of journalism which should not have been published and is helping to fuel hatred between the two sets of supporters. for the record technically english are welsh as brythronism the early form of welsh was spoken by the britons prior to the roman invasion. therefore people in the midlands spoke welsh, prior to moving to wales and the languahe evolving to modern day welsh. Were all british and the banter that goes along is dished out by both sets of fans. Mr polish journalist you have been relegated to room 101
Is that the same Bank of England notes that are printed in Wales?
Bigot.
For god sakes get over yourselves. Its a light hearted blog - look at the nature of Chriss other stuff. It's not meant to be taken seriously.
do you take everything so seriously in life?
The comments on bridgend were appalling and as an albion fan i distance myself from that rubbish. but then shame on the cowardly cardiff fans who made crude remarks about the authors wife! Get a life
Give him a break. Judging by his photo he is still in High School and this was his homework - topic - What I know about Football - 1/10 son - must try harder
FAO Joe,
Racism? Come on. HE's basically saying what I and many other football fans can't understand - why you're so anti-English yet choose to embrace the monies and successes brought to you from playing in an English league. You've been in this league a long time. If you don't like the English you only have to withdraw your membership. Given the reputation of your club, its owners and fans (many of whom have shown their true colours on here with an outpouring of personal insults) then Id suggest you wont be badly missed.
I read enough of Chris's stuff day in day out to know he is a top class journalist who has been covering WBA for years. His blog is meant as a jokey, light-hearted skit.
Hardly a declaration of war! Find something more important to worry yourselves about
Nice one Big Dave's RF - sense spoken. I've never seen so much insulting hatred. I used to think Welsh people were intelligent and bright. Im reassessing that. Lots of empty heads with nothing better to do than insult, barrack a reporter whose getting paid more money than you lot to write his stuff yet and is actually writing a light hearted peice. Does the sense of humour bypass Cardiff?
I find it sad that you should be provoked into such a response. Fair play to the writer and his employers - theyve probably had more hits on this than any other website item today.
" egbert
So why does your nation devote its life to rugby and not football.
what you said about Chris L was below the belt. slag his view off if you life , but haveing a go at his family. your a low life for that so dont come on here moralizing"
Bob I'm laughing at you. Point out where I have been "moralizing" in this thread. Are you really so angry to discover that rugby is a Midlands sport? And I was merely ponting out that Chris looks a bit miserable (a bit like his post) and enquired whether a Welshman was pleasuring his wife. You seem a bit sensitive about this - is a Welshman ******** you missus too? Where's your sense of humour man? You on the other hand seem to find people killing themselves amusing. That's a bit sick Bob.
St George said:
Typical response from our Welsh underlings. The Welsh, Scots and Irish have a huge chip on their shoulder about us English. You call us arrogant but we're not arrogant, just superior.... let the Welsh rule Wales, the Scots rule Scotland (and kick out Brown and his cronies from England as they are having it both ways), the Irish rule Ireland and so on. Chris Lepkowski was born in England, he is English. That's fortunate for him because it means he wasn't born in Wales and is Welsh.
I don't wish to upset you mate but St George was Turkish. That's fine by me, I like the Turks but the irony of watching Ingurland's fans racially abusing them while flying a cross of St George was lost only on the dopey English.
"but then shame on the cowardly cardiff fans who made crude remarks about the authors wife!"
Crude remarks? How awful!! I mean you never hear any crude remarks down at the Hawthorns do you?
I bet his missus does play away though - I mean look at him. :)
FFS,West Bromwich must be the most un-english place in England!!
Bob
Your anger management class is calling. Get a sense of humour you blustering idiot.
Now children lets all be good friends. You’ve arguing over a game where its money bags players couldn’t give a toss about you.they run home to there wives,in some cases it takes 48 hours when they've killed someone.
was he welsh he had a welsh name or was he born in england.
Fools make foolish comments and chant foolish chants.
Fools can wear any teams colours.
Their presence doesn't magically erase the majority who are polite and respectful to one and other, and people of different backgrounds, heritage or beliefs.
I will disapprove any racist, inciteful or purely disrespectful comments made by anyone, be they from a Cardiffian or otherwise.
"Their supporters continually mock supporters of English clubs" I find an absolutely disgusting and narrowmind statement.
I myself have stood up and argued the case against "anti-English chanting" as I would and have done anti-German, anti-Muslim chanting etc etc etc.
It is absolutely disheartening as a Cardiff fan who struggles to promote respect, fairness and good morals amongst our support, to read a piece from a journalist written for the attention of WBA fans which looks to provoke bad feeling and hatred towards Cardiff, or for that matter any other team.
These views and disrespectful attitudes should not be entertained be they light hearted or completely serious. Should I say, get hit over the head with a bottle by a easily influenced WBA fan who has read Chris Lepkowski's sensationalist and hate provoking piece and decided to take the "lets see how they like it up them" tone that runs through it, further and make Cardiff City fans a target for their anger, then I will feel it quite right to cite this piece of 'journalism' as a causative factor in such hooliganism.
I will be filing my complaint with Mr.Lepkowski's employers shortly.
The English Pounds you talk about are they the same Pounds Printed and Dispatched from LLANTRISANT ROYAL MINT in SOUTH WALES? Just curious I aint getting into this fued with some Wannabee Fleet Street Hack, Sort your own Garden out first.....you and near nieghbours the Mighty Mouthy Wolves.........and their ever present return to the 70's accompanied by equally appalling theme tune " Hi Ho Silver Lining" with causing AGRO everywhere We go-oh........so clean up your own County, City, Provence or is it PC to call it the ETHNIC MINORITY COUNTRY
So the game against Baggies is now APRIL 1st....Chris any truth i the rumour your gonna be West broms Mascot tha night dressed in your FOOLS OUTFIT?
Mate, fair play, how on earth are you an editor?
Same old english editors, always moaning about something..Just to put the facts straight, what about english clubs with the anti-welsh chants of "sheep ********"? what, you suggest to kick all the english clubs who have used that against Cardiff, Swansea and Wrexham is it? Didn't think so pal
Do you know Chris why Wales is so full of Mountains?
If your a clever Jurno you should know your British History.
Give up .....ok History lesson for you Chrissy
In the 5th Century we kicked your sorry backsides so many times and stole so much of your land that we ended up having to STOCKPILE it.
To Baggie Bob....yes we do disgusting things with them sheep....but you pay £2.65 a Lb to eat em
And Geographically its only the ones on the welsh borders with Shropshire etc because your women aint a patch on our sheep.
I see you taffs are still playing 'lets see whos got the biggest ****
the faw cup referred to in the blog has today been scraped owing to the lack of interest
shown by some of the participants.
English people, please...learn to judge yourselves for a change.
Editor speaking. I'm sure there's a good debate lurking under the surface here, gents, but let's calm it a little please. We can and will be editing obscenities, and any threats will be rejected. Thank you. steve.dyson@birminghammail.net
Steve Dyson.
I agree that some of the posts could be calmed down a bit , but it was one of your staff that started the racist angle (albeit in an attempted joking fashion it would now seem).Journalism attempting to appeal to the lowest common denominator in terms of reader intelligence - is that really your paper`s policy to mimic the Sun or Star?
However , as I and others with a modicum of education (that would appear to rule out Baggie Bob based on his inability to type anything resembling English)have pointed out , your man shouldn`t go throwing stones whilst living in a glass house.
He is of Polish background , so does he really believe that on that basis he and his family should be repatriated to Poland or that the English royal family should be deported to Greece or Germany to reclaim their roots.Or that the English flag of St George should be compelled to have Turkish writing on it in honour of the home of the patron saint? Of course not , that would be as ridiculous as some of the comments of your reporter (although it would follow his stated school of logic).
Perhaps he could print similar views to his Welsh ones about the foreign links of the Winsors (a.k.a Saxe Coburgs)St George , his own family etc.and see how much of a popularity contest that wins with your readers.
I await your response on the point in the spirit of fair and quality journalism
Thanks for the response, Keith. I don't want to get too drawn in, as this is Chris Lepkowski's blog site and you guys and gals are his fans (or not). But I would point out that while your own responses have been reasonable, you have over-reacted to something that Chris didn't actually say. You talk about repatriation... Chris didn't. You seem to make a nasty nationalistic identity issue out of a decent, if robust, football debate about national competitions.
In my eyes, Chris is saying: 'Cardiff's Welsh competition commitments are bloomin' annoying as they are messing our fixtures list up... what's more important? The Championship and F A Cup or the Welsh comps? If the latter, why don't Cardiff go into the Welsh League rather than the Premier League.'
You may not agree with his sentiments, indeed I may not agree with him either. But he's NOT been nationalistic in terms of saying anything like 'go back to Wales' or 'you're not welcome in an English cup/comp'. If he had said anything like that, I would have deleted his blog entry.
I'm pleased at the level of feedback Chris' comment has prompted, and rate yours as thought-provoking and something to reflect on. Some response was, however, offensive, derogatory towards women and almost threatening. As a result some editing and rejection has been carried out by my staff on my instruction.
Thanks for your interaction here though. It's good to talk.
Regards ... steve.dyson@birminghammail.net
Good coments steve
I would add that I agree with Chris L. I read his stuff a lot and he is the only local albion writer who has a feel for the club he covers and knows what hes talking about. And yes i was upsett to read that our game against cardif couldnt go ahed due to there invollvement in a cup that conflicts with our own league and one that cardif subsbribed too.
I wouldnt want to loose cardiff from our league. but they need to decide if they are a welsh club in england or a welsh club full stop. personaly i hope the first.
and before anyone says any thing i have dyslexya so dont even go there about my spelging
Chris isnt being racist. He's provoking debate. For some reason nobody is allowed an opinion without being deemed racist (ironic as Chris sounds more polish than english)
I have been to ninian park 2 times and felt VERY intimidated because i have the nerve to be english, supporting an english team.
I have nothing against Wales or even cardiff per se but Cardiff fans(some, not all) do themselves or their nation no favors with the pro-welsh, anti-english stance.
Chris makes good poitns which need addressing not turning into a racial issue by tubthumping hooligan-wannabes
more to the point people need to see Chris's blog for what it obviously is. It's a light hearted look at football not the John Gaunt column
Ive seen cardiff play so i know you lot have a sense of humour somewhere in there :-)
To say he's being racist is a lazy cliche that all people fall into these days at the expense of rational/light hearted debate when anyone's origin is mentioned.
some comments on here have been well over the top
but in the interests of sensibility and respect I would urge whoever is controlling this board to remove those made regarding the deaths of youngsters in the bridgend area of south wales
better still scrap the whole infantile article
thank you
St George may have been born in Turkey and joined the Roman Army but so what? Us superior English have an open and multi cultural society and are not blinkered like the boys over the Severn. He is patron saint of England but also of Aragon, Catalonia, Georgia, Lithuania, Palestine and Portugal amongst others. I'm just glad Max Boyce isn't our patron saint. Or is yours Charlotte Church? I agree with editor Steve Dyson that people here should calm down and there is a serious sense of humour by-pass among our serfs in Wales. Having said that, I gather Chris Lepkowski did get his journalism degree from the Walesa University of Shipyard Plumbers Gdansk and he should be sacked by sole virtue of supporting West Brom, a crime in anyone's eyes.
I am the most famous Welshman - FACT. And I agree with Chris L
Why why why...must we always play in the Welsh cup?It's not unusual you know.
St George,
With reference to your ill conceived line 'Us superior English have an...'
Firstly, may I remind you that there is no such thing as 'English' per se. At best, its a hybrid of nationalities and races as England has the unfortunate record of being the most invaded and pillaged land since time was recorded. Whenever I see such misguided and ill conceived statements such as yours, it does indeed raise a smile and brighten my day, as I have given it much thought and always come back to the obvious envy the English hold at our unique Welsh identity and culture. Perhaps it is this deep routed confusion about your lack of a cultural identity within you that also creates a fear that, as my title suggests, 'we are still here', despite many attempts over centuries to dilute the Welsh way.
Yma O Hyd, and cheerio old bean!
Anonynous - rather apt for a Welshman/woman - the English don't actually care about the Welsh, not like how wound up you lot get when you play us at football or rugby. I don't think your culture or identity is unique at all; why do you and the Scots and Irish bang on about this kind of thing all of the time? There is no fear in England, it's fine if you chaps want to carry on in your own merry way, we are really not that bothered. The very fact this blog has generated so much fuss in the Principality says it all. Gfy tto old bean!
Wales isnt multi cultural ?
the south wales valleys had waves of immigration from poland , ukrine, irelnd and italy during the growth of the mining industry
and cardiff is home to the united kingdoms first ever mosque, britains first established black community and home to all creeds and colours
another ill informed comment
the real reason match was not played
due to injuries to simerca sinclair fowler
they;ll all be back for april fools day
well 2 out 3 will
theres a milky bar for the kid who works out which of the 3 named will miss this game
keith (The Editor) & Chris
Yes I totally agree with your point of why does Welsh Premiere Cup take preference over a League match...I for one would have prefered US to play the baggies the other night, I am sure the form we are in we would'nt have rolled over to a garbage result, and not le a 3-1 lead disappear this time round.How Ironic that just maybe if the gods are willing we could face the Baggies on April 1st ad then 4 days later at Wembley in cup semi.Just maybe then Ppl lie yourself Chris & Bob could come and have a Civilised Discussion about the righs and wrongs of welsh teams being included in the English Football Association Line -up.
On a foot note Why are Cardiff, Swansea & Wrexham included in the Football League?
Easy answer:
1) The Brummies get to go to the Seaside.
2) So SOME English Teams Fans get a chance of a FORIEGN Holiday.
3) To teach some clubs that IT IS POSSIBLE to have more than ONE SONG.
4) To help make the English feel Better about themselves ,because they are obviousl insecure and Yet again have to pick on the Ethnic Minority within the UK.
You talk of anti -englishness on here, remember there are 92 clubs in the leagues.So 89 have fans who are more than willing to be anti welsh,bet yo wish the scots would enter a few teams down south.
Yes we sing anti english songs but its part of the banter.But remember Who's Fans throughout the 70-80-90's blighted and tarnished FOOTBALL Worldwide.......Clue: England - Ireland - Scotland -Wales
Want to go 50-50, phone a friend?????
Enough said!
Attn Bob the Baggie One
I read with much humour your remarks about Coming to Ninian Park and the comment about Spittle.
Well unless there is an Olympic Event for Gobbing the furthest I can't understand that weak comment.The Nearest fan to an Away fan has to be at least 30meters past a line of stewards & police. SO i can only assume that BOB may I call you Robert.....You Roberto have never been to Ninian Park....scared by the rumours and ENGLISH MEDIA HYPE!!!!
Fact Ninian Park & Cardiff in general are one of teh safest places to visit. The old bill are well clued on how to police people Especially away fans with Dignity, Humour and Common Sense (Unlike WMP) the clowns who ban us from wolves bu let us go freely to wba????
The arrest rate for trouble BOTH at Home & Away has drastically dropped over the last few years, due to self policing and a working relationship again with SWPF.....West Mid Police take note (Working Relatinship with Club & Fans)
How many teams can say that?
And don't be clouded yet again by the Media, claiming trouble doesn't happen i the Premiereship, its just not reported as its BAD FOR THE GAME.........sorry I meant Making MONEY!!!!
So Bob if you do now feel braver and judging by your Posts you must feel like Rambo & Tyson all n one, get your girlieness down to NP and lets see what you post on yur return......I reckon and Im no betting man but prob more ludicrous B.S.
I agree with your observations 100%; I must also admit that the comments made by Joe are farcical and not worth responding to.
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